EI in SA
I must say that it is good to see the pony clubs, dressage clubs, show jumpers all cancelling their events in September just to be on the safe side.
What truly disgusts me is why is this certain western club being so selfish and going ahead and running their show this weekend 16th September here in Adelaide. I mean I would much prefer to miss out on showing for a few weeks than end up not showing for 6 months.
C'mon something should be done to have this club and other western clubs cancel until further notice.
Think of everyone in this state not just yourselves......
What truly disgusts me is why is this certain western club being so selfish and going ahead and running their show this weekend 16th September here in Adelaide. I mean I would much prefer to miss out on showing for a few weeks than end up not showing for 6 months.
C'mon something should be done to have this club and other western clubs cancel until further notice.
Think of everyone in this state not just yourselves......
posted by Horse Deals at
9:18 pm
31 Comments:
There is a showjumping Club In SA also still running their show next weekend i think..... Amazing even after atending the DPI meeting and asking them to cancel they still go ahead!
To the person who did not sign their name to this uninformed comment.
If you had contacted one of the committee members responsible for the running of the said show you would have been informed of the fact that they have been in close and continual contact with both the AQHA and PIRSA as to the requirements for the go ahead of the show.
Also may I add that QHASA would not put any horses and/or people in any position where if there was any realistic risk of contracting EI and will have very strict compliances in place.
If in future you would like to contact the club I am sure they would be happy to pass on any information they have to you with out such a public misunderstanding.
A proud member of QHASA !!!!!
I have just been in contact with the president of QHASA and in her words "we would not be holding the show if we had not been given a permit and strict instruction from PIRSA on how to do this safely"
Here are just a FEW of the precautions we will have in place:
1-Limit of horses is 50
2-All horses,strappers and spectators will be recorded and passed on to PIRSA on request.
3-No unauthorised people to have contact with any horses or participants at the show, with barricades in place.
Please if anyone has any concerns please feel free to voice these to a member of the committee.
Thank you
PROUD MEMBER OF QHASA, The other two people are right. I have been at the PIRSA meetings and that show along with all others were advised not to go ahead. Do you think it strange that 99% of the other SA shows have cancelled, and yet you guys are still going ahead!!!! Wake up, you guys are not superior to everyone else and have special control methods, Everyone else is just thinking of the whole states interests not just their own! Like it or not there are still risks and the rest of SA is trying to Eliminate ALL RISK not just monitor them.
I have to agree with the first two posts. Do you think it strange that 99% of the other shows with organisers and members at the same meeting as the QHASA cancelled all of there shows, including state championships... Why because PIRSA ASKED (not wanting to make people feel like they were under lock and key)for all shows to be shut down. While the rest of the state try to eliminate all risks and keep SA clean some small people seem to think they are superior to the virus and increase the risk of it in SA! If they really cared about their horses and the horse community they would sacrifice one horse show to ensure our commuinity stays clean.. I think the actions of the various committees and organisations throughout the state speak for themselves!!! ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS and i comend those who have put some extremely large shows on the back burner to ensure that this state stays clean.
I Agree it is very selfish Considering many committees running Many different events including State Champs cancelled at the request of PIRSA. I was at the meeting and although they did give out instructions for those people who insisted on running. THEY DID HOWEVER ASK EVERYONE TO CANCEL. Says alot about those people!!
It's fine for you all to go on about a small western club, wanting to hold a small local show, well what about the racing industry who are going ahead full steam. Even certain people allowed to cross the boarder with a truck load. Maybe thats where some of these comments should be headed, but no one seems to care about them, I guess they make to much money for the government, unlike the dressage, western, show jumping, pony clubs etc.
I too am a member of QHASA and I dont care what measure QHASA have gone thru with getting a permit etc. Its still wrong and shouldnt be allowed. Sorry just had to have my say, sorry if it offends people. We should all be looking out for each other, not looking out for ourselves...We want this state to be free from EI and there are people out there who only think of themselves and dont care about the rest of us. Imagine if it gets out here and then you have one lousy show could mean the last for say 6 months or more, think of that, think of everyone else. Especially everyone interstate must be going thru.
After PIRSA continued to voice their concern Metro have agreed to call off the WORLD CUP SHOW. Lets hope the QHASA show a little common sence and do the same thing!!!
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Our family are also QHASA members, and we too are NOT going to the show. I have struggled with the decision, but have decided to put our horse first. In my opinion it is a situation that is too much out of my control. My worst fear is that my horse is also agisted at the venue were the show is, is it fair that we are put into a "no win situation". Why has every other horse event been cancelled, if this is not serious? I am sure my daughter will survive if she misses a few shows. Short term pain for hopefully long term gain!!
As a member of the AQHA I am absolutely HORRIFIED to know that an affiliate commitee is putting their own wants above the greater need of both the state of South Australia and the country.
I am not in South Australia, however rest assured that if I was, that entire commitee would be voted out at the next AGM! You guys really need to reconsider this decision - it's outrageous.
My daughter is a QHASA member, I am shocked and embarresed that people in my state are not taking this situation seriously. We will not be taking any of our horses off our property to do a local show and risk bringing anything back to my property and putting my 31 year old Quarter horse and 22 year old pony at risk, they have been living peacefully in retirement. ARE POINTS REALLY THAT IMPORTANT? (or is this show a non points scoring show?)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am also a QHASA member... and i do beleive that they are doing the wrong thing by showing.... i mean they have put out permits avalible to show, which means its ok to show!... i dont agree with showing with the equine influenza going around.... but i do think that by putting out permitts they have made it able to happen so i dont think its intierly QHASA's fault... although i would not through a show either this week and i will not be attending it.
With so many Qhasa members having a right old time airing your complanits here have any of you contacted the president or vice of the Committee direct? If so I would like to know what was the jist of the coversation was and if any reasonable reason why it is still going ahead if so many members want it to be cancelled or is it just too hard to pick up the phone? I also am a member and if the majority of the membership is not happy then something such as a meeting called should be done!!!!!
Members don't bother ringing the president because they know they will be fobbed off as troublemakers or negitve ,then u will be asked if local Quarter Horse director put u up to the phone call,because he has a personal vendetta agaist the president,so either way the club will do want 5 out of the 12 committee wants as its always done in their little CLICK.
I’m a qhasa member and will be going to the show with 1or 2 horses. I don’t have a problem with my choice either. The fact remains that SA is EI free we can’t be held back by moral judgments that are trying to be made by some people and the upper eastern states. If qhasa are willing to get a permit I’m willing to show. Why aren’t people getting on the ban wagons about the show held in WA last week? The racing industry is holding events in sa why not jump all over them. I suppose it easier to bash a small committee that are and have done nothing wrong. I can assure you that nec would have to allow them the go ahead to show, if nec doesn’t have a problem with it again what have they done wrong. Do you think nec would put there business at risk for a three party show no way. For the people that are agisting at nec that are concerned, that don’t want to show I hope you are following proper bio-security measures. This would be disposable boot covers, disposable coveralls and gloves, shower before and after entry. If this is not happening how do you think that running a show in a state that doesn’t have EI with horse only from this states suddenly infect nec. IMO the states that don’t have EI should be vigilant but not held back. Keep the boarders locked down, don’t import any gear or equine products ie semen. If we keep a closed shop we should be able to show. Until this state has it first case of EI that’s when an only then should we have a total lockdown.
Cheers
S
Hi All, I am a QHASA member and I WILL be showing on Sunday, the Committee is bending over backwards to do the right thing and I want someone (preferably intelligent and a Vet would be nice) to explain to me how in the hell we would be doing any harm and spreading the disease when it doesn't even exist in this State, when there are no interstate horses or riders or judges attending and where the PIRSA guidelines will be strictly adhered to ? There are no points being awarded at this show but I for one would like to get my horse out in a show situation and use it as a training exercise. I feel totally at ease about taking my horse to this show and if any of you know me then you would know how much money and time I spend on my horses and how I would not risk their health ever. I think most of you are over reacting to the stuff you are hearing from interstate - why are the races here still happening? are racehorses immune to spreading this disease - that should tell you that PIRSA are not that worried YET. I'll let you know on Monday how the show went. Have a good weekend - although the weather doesn't sound good.
Well since you have also decided to air your comments instead of "picking up the phone" then why dont you organise a meeting then......today would be good before the competition tomorrow.
Whats the point anyway of contacting them they had already made up their minds without discussing it with members, and they are going ahead and dont give too hoots about this state.
Its the sensible people who are keeping their horses at home instead of people who can only think of points!!!
In comment to the concerns above, we were going to attend the show this weekend to support our local club.We were confident that all neccesary measures were in place for a safe show.
How many of you out there attend saddlery stores, fodder shops, go to freinds for coffee that also have horses ect ??? How many of you have had farriers, chiro's, vets or any meter readers eg etsa, come on your property and made them change clothing and shower before entering and leaving your property.
Are you all washing your cars inner and outer inc tyres with Virkon as a precaution.
You all want to take the moral high ground on this and attack a club who were just trying to do the right thing by their members by the feed back they had recieved which was approx 90% positive for wanting to go ahead with the show.
So how many of you people who have this anti show stance are still going to the Mark Schaffer clinic next weekend?????
I was going to attend this show on the weekend as I know the show was being run in a proffesional manner according to permits.
Reading the above comments I have to wonder if all of you against this show going ahead have also been taking the appropriate measures to protect yourselves from EI.
Namely have you been to saddleries, feed shops, visited freinds with horses? Have you had Vet's, Farriers, Chiro's or meter readers on your property. If yes to any of the above, have you taken the correct measures, eg washing all cars ect inside and out with Virkon or the like, made them change all clothing before entering and leaving your properties???
If you have not being doing this vigilantly, why are you criticising a club for running a show who were doing the law required in this state at this time?
I believe their members were polled and approx 90% were in favour of still going ahead.
So I have to assume that all the negative posters above will not be attending the Mark Schaeffer clinic next weekend, with or without your horses.
It's a pity he is great from what I hear & we all know it is good to have someone of his calibre here.
Further regarding showing this weekend, I have just been informed there is a show going ahead in Victoria Sunday 16th Sep.
I know for a fact at least one well known and respected Proffesional trainer will be attending.
So why is the Vic club that is running their show not being attacked. Considering Vic is closer to the problem than we are??
I am a member of QHASA and ARAC, i decided early in the week not to go to the QHASA show, I have friends that are going, thats each our choice. My problem is we are supposed to go the clinic on this weekend, what do we do? We have all paid $500, and I for one cant afford to loose that. There are supposed to be only 10-12 horses there, is that better than an open show?, I dont know. My other problem is that my agistment property have a huge problem with us taking horses to places where there are a collection of horses and then coming back to the property, and I totally respect that, they have all stopped there various shows and horsey activities. My other problem is my husband is much more unconcerned than I am, and if he hadnt been away this weekend prob would have gone to the show and definately will be going to the clinic. Thats fine, I love him dearly and he is entitled to his opinion! But where does that leave me? Every body feels so strongly, but if everybody just stops for a minute and realises that sometimes there are no easy decisions, not for the individuals or for any of the riding clubs, and every thing is not black or white. Lets not all turn on each other because of our differences of opinion!! Bottom line we are ALL horse people and its hard for everyone!
Sorry, guys I stand corrected the show is not running in Vic but was run in WA last weekend.
I guess sometimes reliable information is'nt so reliable.
The fact still remains there are a lot of people slamming the integrity of the AQHSA comittee, who were only acting on the feedback they recieved from their members, and thought they were doing the right thing.
In regards to what Killara said, well if members where polled about whether to go ahead or not, then how come then as I am a member I wasnt contacted about it or asked for my opinion....
So that must be hog wash....
Only select members were polled from the looks of things....
From what Ive heard its been cancelled, which it should have been done in the first place..
Finally a great outcome, NO SHOW!
Anyone from interstate could bring this virus with them on their clothes or up their nose. We should all be careful and take all precautions.
Finally an end to this matter so we can all stop the cattyness.....
m.sweet, you say a few posts up that you wouldnt risk your horse "for a few ribbons", but you are going to a clinic a week later,according to your post above, at the same venue with some of the same horses? This doesnt make sense, you either stand by your decision, or you change your mind and back down. You cannot sit on one side of the fence one week, then flop on the otherside the next because it suits you. I find your comments to be hypocrytical, you cannot have it both ways to suit yourself becuse you paid money for a clinic.
As to the person who had thought it right to have a go at "Pick up the phone" I know the person who posted that message and she has done nothing but pick up the phone for the last few days keeping herself well informed of the lastest news.
For the person who feels they were "fobbed off" did you bother to contact any other committee members to discuss the conversation? Plus as far as I can see on my LATEST newsletter we dont have a member by the name of T Taylor!!!! or is it that is not your name!!!!
Also I would like to know who the 5 committee members are you feel have a click happening because everything is voted on at meeting and as there is 17 [not 12] at most meetings, dont you think they would be out voted quick smart if they were trying to put though things to only benefit them selfs?
I am in my second year in this committee and I can tell you that no one is a push over and that the membership is of the highest concern to us, no one person runs this club and without the full support of the committee,members and family of members we would never have thought about holding a show.
Anyway it was called off and now you can turn all you attentions to slowly making the next club on your "hit list" life a mess.
K Alexander
Good on you Karina - someone with some balls has finally spoken !
Pam
Im a new member for QHASA and I didnt get a phone call to poll whether to go ahead and have the show or not.
No one contacted me to let me know the show had been cancelled. I was planing on taking my horse but with the weather decided not to.
I thought Id go and watch. Well nice to see a note saying cancelled when I got down there. I would have been highly peeeved off If I took my horse down there and saw that note when a phone call or something on Ausvinyl to say it had been cancelled would have been good.
Leaves a sour taste in your mouth being a new member!
To any members of QHASA who are saying they were not contacted. We have over 100 members, to of rang them all would have been unnecessary. I personally rang ALL members who regularly showed last season. There was no point ringing the handfull of members using this or other sites in a negative way as I knew they had no intention of showing. Out of 17 committee members only 2 were hesitant about running the show, purely because of what was being said on these sites. I HAVE been in constant contact with my committee and a Meeting was called Saturday, whereby a unanimous vote was made to cancel the show. Again I had to make many phone calls to these keen members who were very dissapointed. Also put a sign on the door at NEC for those who wern't regulars last season yet planned to show. My deepest appologies to these members. I am aproachable, so to those of you who had such deep concerns about the horse flu and the show running, I know who you are and you know you could have rang me. We didn't cancel because of these sites but because AQHA would not cover us with insurance and cancelled our approval for this and any further shows till further notice. My opinion is there is no need for panic in S.A. yet as it isn't even in Vic. I was also in constant contact with PIRSA and was more recently told they are confident it won't even reach vic because of the Hay Plains. So lets hope this is the case so we can get on with our Horse lives we love so much. To any NSW or QLD people on these sites my heart goes out to you and I hope there is an end to this terrible virus soon. QHASA had never intended to offend you in any way and we all wish you the very best. Our committee are all volunteers who have a great passion for the horse industry and were only trying to do the best for our members and would never of run a show if we thought there was even a slim chance of EI surfacing in SA. I also wish ARAC all the best in running the clinic next week which I intend on fence sitting at. Thanks for those who did support us on these sites.
Carole
President QHASA
Hi. I was going to the qhasa show and I would have had a great time. I was very dissappointed that it was cancelled. What I seem to not understand is why there has been all this stuff said about qhasa when another club has been holding practise nights and have a clinic planned. From what I can gather ( I could be wrong ) is that an American trainer is coming to do a clinic with ARAC. Is this trainer coming over just for SA or is he going to other states as well? What is the difference if you paid $500 for this clinic. This doesnt mean that your horse is not going to get ei if it breaks out in this state. As far as I can see there is no differance if you go to some place with 10 horses or if you go some place with 50. There has been no negativity left about arac holding this clinic or starting their practise nights at nec as well. Due to what has happened I feel it would only be fair if all this was stopped as well. Yes I am a qhasa member and I will be a member of arac. So to all of you going to the arac clinic and who sooked about qhasa holding their show you are all a mob of hypocrites.
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